Donald Trump gets on the phone… with Sarah

Donald Trump’s Unexpected Call with Sarah Smith

April 23, 2026 | 24 minutes | Available for over a year

In this episode, Sarah Smith recounts the unusual phone conversation she had with President Donald Trump. The interview, which was meticulously planned, took an unexpected turn when Trump initiated a follow-up call. Sarah and Anthony Zurcher delve into the details of their preparation, the dynamics of the interaction, and the surprising nature of the president’s return call.

The discussion highlights Trump’s remarks on the upcoming state visit by King Charles and Queen Camilla, which he believes could mend ties with the United Kingdom. He also offers insights into how Prime Minister Keir Starmer might navigate the political challenges following the appointment of Peter Mandelson as U.S. ambassador. Additionally, Sarah probes Trump about his prior assertion of annihilating an entire Iranian civilization.

“The visit from the King and Queen might serve as a bridge to rebuild trust with the UK,” Trump remarks. He also suggests strategies for Starmer to regain momentum after the recent political developments.

Hosts

Sarah Smith, North America Editor • Anthony Zurcher, North America Correspondent

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Production Credits

This episode was crafted by George Dabby, with Ricardo McCarthy handling technical production. The series is overseen by Purvee Pattni, and Sam Bonham serves as senior news editor. To ensure you’re alerted to future episodes, subscribe to Americast on the BBC Sounds app.

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